In the last few years, I have gone back to at least playing the WWE wrestling games. The history modes featured in the last few games included Best of Wrestlemania, Best of the Attitude ERA and Path of the Ultimate Warrior, all fun modes.
This year 2k has raised the bar with a fun additional DLC mode, one which I had always thought would be fun.
Its the WWE Hall of Fame Mode, featuring matches which cover the Class of 2015.
Every WWE Hall of Famer (excluding Connor the Crusher, a child who never wrestled and Arnold Schwarzenegger, a celebrity who never wrestled)
This mode will feature:
‘Macho Man’ Randy Savage vs. Jake ‘The Snake’ Roberts from Tuesday Night at Texas
Rikishi vs. The Rock from Summerslam 2000
Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Ric Flair from Superbrawl 1991
The Bushwhackers vs. The Natural Disasters from Summerslam 1991
Larry Zbysko/Arn Anderson vs Ricky Steamboat/Dustin Rhodes from Clash of Champions
The Outsiders vs. Harlem Heat from Halloween Havoc &
Alundra Blayze vs. Paige from nowhere. I am guessing they tried to get Bull Nakano or Bertha Faye and couldn’t secure the deal.
Its a fun mode and something I look forward to playing.
What do you think? Is this a welcome addition to the WWE video game series?
When I was a child, I had three heroes, all wrestlers who exemplified what I wanted to be as an adult man. Hulk Hogan represented the good in the world, and inspired me to be a champion. The Ultimate Warrior was the best example of energy and passion that existed in my life. And Randy Savage was my inspiration. He represented creativity and embodied the nonsense that runs through my mind. If you, my faithful reader, has ever asked why I write a blog dedicated to the WWE Hall of Fame, this is why. Through these men, wrestling represented what I wanted to be, and as a child they helped define who I became.
The WWE Hall of Fame can be a beautiful thing. It is a chance for the fans to say thank you and to say goodbye to their heroes. When the Ultimate Warrior made his speech last year, I couldn’t help but smile. It was Warrior, back on TV in more advanced age, but yet the same, talking about that portion of his life which mattered so much to me. For Randy Savage, we will never have that moment.
The greatest tragedy of Macho Man Randy Savage is that he is going into the WWE Hall of Fame in 2015. He, of course, deserves it, but that’s not the point. The idea of Randy Savage is joining the Hall of Fame, but the man is dead. He never saw this honor and never had the chance to be thanked. We never got to say goodbye to him.
This above all else makes me angry. WWE had many opportunities to do the induction, if only they could take the politics out of the Hall of Fame. ITS NOT WHAT IT IS ABOUT!!!
When the WWE Hall of Fame returned in 2004, no one took notice. It flew directly under the radar and wasn’t really even mentioned. That changed in 2005, when the greatest and most well known wrestler in history, Hulk Hogan was inducted. As far as I was concerned, next year in 2006, Macho Man Randy Savage should have gone in. WWE had it in their power to make it happen, and perhaps would have without the politics we will get ino later. 2006 instead was Bret Hart, a surprise for sure, and a well deserved headliner. 2007 was Dusty Rhodes, followed by Ric Flair in 2008 and Stone Cold in 2009.
That was the year they only let Austin talk for 10 minutes….
Austin went in too early at the young age of 46. I remember questioning this. It was not whether Austin deserved induction (obviously did) , but more asking “Why Now?” Still, I shrugged and felt Macho Man would have his day. Time heals all wounds, right….
In 2010, an opportunity presented itself. 2010 had no headliner. Warrior was supposedly asked in a very disrespectful way by John Laurinaitis to headline that year. Warrior declined. Ted Dibiase ended up headlining in the most wonky and lackluster class in history (until 2015). 2011 makes me bitter more than anything. The headliner was the recently retired Shawn Michaels. Like Austin before him, Michaels didn’t need to get in yet. He could have waited a few years as he was only retired for less than one whole year. It was the perfect year for the Macho Man. All WWE had to do was contact the Macho Man. He had already begun to do video game and action figure advertisements for Macho Man products with the WWE.
But this didn’t happen and it is all one man’s fault:
This cocky son of a bitch
Vince McMahon makes enemies with his former talent quite easily. The list has been long and plentiful, filled with some of the greatest talents in the history of Pro Wrestling. Triple H, since taking on his regins as Talent Relations Head has successfully attempted to right the wrongs of McMahon’s stubborness. Bruno Sammartino, The Ultimate Warrior, Hulk Hogan (again), Larry Zbyszko etc have all joined the Hall of Fame or returned to television. This is all in spite of Vince McMahon.
Why was the Macho Man persona non gratis with the WWE? First let me address the rumor and i mean THE rumor. The rumor is that Randy Savage, while still an employee (circa 1994), slept with an underage Stephanie McMahon, something both illegal and the greatest betrayal of Vince McMahon’s trust. You see, Vince and Randy used to be close, very close. In fact upon Savage’s departure to WCW, Vince McMahon appeared on TV to wish Randy well, something which is bizarrely out of character for McMahon.
It appeared the Vince was okay with Savage’s departure, so what changed? It may be possible that the Stephanie rumors are true, or in more likelihood, Savage leaving festered within McMahon. Vince looked at it like a betrayal. Randy was a company man, a man up for anything (even becoming a commentator) and lived WWE. Vince trusted him and yet still lost him. It was an affront that Vince McMahon never got over. Randy Savage had turned their friendship into a business agreement and if that is the case than Vince never wanted to work with him again. And Vince has been quoted as saying “I never want to work with that man again” Was it a vendetta or a severe case of sour grapes? Only two men know and one is dead and the other isn’t talking. Their contention,which existed up until the day Randy Savage died,makes me wish Triple H had taken over the Hall of Fame sooner.
For any wrestling fan worth his weight, there is no question that Macho Man Randy Savage belongs in the WWE Hall of Fame. He belongs in the Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame, the WCW Hall of Fame, even the Television Hall of Fame.
This man was pure gold, in the ring, on the microphone and such a larger than life persona.And that’s what this induction is missing in 2015. In 2015, we can celebrate only what Randy Savage was and what made him special:
We will have to remember his words, the magic which existed in his promos from memory only. We won’t get to hear a “OOOOH YEA” or some other ridiculous statement.
We won’t be able to hear him tell stories about his perfectionist attitude when it comes to matches. Ricky Steamboat has mentioned that their Wrestlemania 3 encounter was scripted to the move.And it was perfect. It was only something a talent like Randy Savage could perform.
We won’t hear about our favorite sales pitch.
We won’t be able to hear the story behind Elizabeth and how her inclusion gave him a specialness which no valet has succeeded in bringing before Savage or after him.
And most importantly, we won’t hear Randy Savage’s side of the story. Last year, the Ultimate Warrior spoke to all his fans and said “I’m a good person.” and we all knew it was true. Warrior spoke from the heart, from a feeling of love for his fans and for the business. Randy Savage had this too. He was a child of the business, a family business which he flourished in. We cannot hear the tales of his father Angelo, or the playful jabs at Lanny for the Genius character. Macho will never talk about his relationships with Hulk Hogan, or Vince McMahon. He won’t be able to talk about his “betrayal” or his status as the ultimate (no pun intended) prodigal son.
The speech Lanny Poffo will give will be fine. it will be a tribute. But that will be a small catharsis for what we are missing.
Overdue and tragic, welcome to the Hall of Fame Macho Man.
Because the WWE made peace with Lanny Poffo. With Randy’s death, the caretaker of his legacy has become his much less successful younger brother. The Genius said for many years after Savage’s death, that Randy’s wishes were to have Randy, Lanny and Angelo Poffo go in together, ala the Von Erichs.
This very well could have been the case as Macho Man levied in WCW for Angelo to go in the WCW Hall of Fame even though he really didn’t deserve it.
Regardless, the fans wanted Randy Savage. WWE was able to offer enough money and be just convincing enough to get Lanny Poffo to relent. And with Savage having been deceased since 2011, Triple H spent time on those glaring missing elements who were alive (Sammartino & Warrior) before tackling Randy Savage. 2015 was that year
Opens Door For?
Never say Never. Excluding Chris Benoit, there is not a wrestler who deserves it (and does the murderer really deserve it) who will not eventually join the Hall of Fame. Owen Hart, Demolition, The Hardys, and more persona non gratis will eventually get in. Its just a matter of time.
Reasons this shouldn’t have happened.
Go fuck yourself. There are no reasons why Macho Man Randy Savage doesn’t belong in the Hall of Fame.
Without a doubt, Kevin Nash is one of the most polarizing figures in wrestling history. His detractors’ hatred is plentiful,with names like Big Lazy circulating regularly. When Nash was first announced, one of this blogs’ regular readers “threw his hands up in the air” and said without a doubt that Nash’s inclusion solidified the 2015 class as one of the worst in history. He was no longer going to watch the ceremony on the WWE Network That is a serious set of statements. What about Kevin Nash creates such disdain in the “smart fan” base?
Supposed character or Nash’s supposed lack of it, fuels his naysayers. Kevin Nash summarizes himself succinctly, he is first and foremost a business man. Heroes like Daniel Bryan are seen by fans as fans of the business who do their life passion in the ring. This might be true in Bryan’s case but isn’t as much of a constant as we’d like to think. Hulk Hogan, The Rock, Goldberg and anyone who jumped to WCW during the Monday Night Wars were much more concerned with the bottom line than their own passion,
And some are more concerned with their pride….
Nash also loves to fuck with the fans. On twitter, Nash writes incendiary things, (Chris Jericho too!) or “news” to fuck with the “smart fan”. Nash’s life is the wrestling business and he takes offense to people who suppose they are “in the know”, a fairly old-school wrestler attitude. When he isn’t actively ribbing fans, he’s offending them by jabbing at some of their heroes..
Hatred for Nash in the modern era stemmed from comments about Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit. He referred to Eddie as a “Vanilla Midget” and said Guerrero was unbelievable as a World Champion. This is a very unpopular position within our community, but I see his point. Eddie Guerrero won the WWE Heavyweight Championship out of nowhere in 2004 at No Way Out. He won it because both Brock Lesnar and Goldberg decided to leave the organization after Wrestlemania 20, where they were originally planned to have a WWE Championship match.. If one or both of them had decided to sign on for another year, Eddie’s title run would have never occurred. Unpopular opinion, Eddie Guerrero was not a main event talent. He didn’t last long as heavyweight champion and his run cannot be considered to be stupendous. To this point of view, Nash is greeted regularly with:
On top of his attitude, Nash has been accused of being overrated as a talker, a worker and a talent, all the while himself masquerading as a Main Eventer. To his detractors, his 1995 title reign is as the example of his poor performance and sheer inability to create memorable moments. Diesel hatred can be summarized succinctly; he couldn’t wrestle and only got where he did due to his size. This is a gross simplification of his 1995 championship run. 1995 WWF had a completely different terrain than today, with kayfabe not yet dead and limited internet. Nash got the championship belt during a downward spiral period in both quality and superstar caliber. 1993 saw the end of the long running Hulk Hogan Era with the McMahon run company. Hogan’s replacement, Bret Hart, was originally poised as a temporary champion (both picked for his small stature and lack of obvious steriod usage) The Hitman’s look, bland and basic mic skills and lack of a large personality all hurt his first run. Yokozuna, the first long-term heel WWF Champion since Superstar Billy Graham, eventually lost the title back to Hart when Lex Luger went belly up.
Who would ever believe this man had charisma?
There was a large problem. Bret Hart in 1994 had very few reputable challengers. His feuds with Crush, his brother Owen and even former champion Bob Backlund were not “big” enough in the world of Hogans and Warriors and business began to fade. Add in the end of the steroid trials, WCW starting to rise as competition. (The year Hogan arrived there) and in 1994, Vince McMahon needed a new larger than life babyface. McMahon decided to take a chance on a newer wrestler, who while relatively green, had the look, size and the charisma with potential to take fire. Baby-face Diesel worked. Fans took to him and he had some limited success as the anti-Bret Hart, even having a fairly good match with the former champion at the Royal Rumble. (This is mostly due to Hart himself and his ability to make anyone “look good”)
Pride is the most important thing….
Why would WWE go with Diesel over Bret Hart, who was clearly the most capable wrestler? Wrestling in 1995 was considerably less about the showstopper nature of matches and more about larger than life characters who the fans could believe in. The idea of “amazing matches” throughout the card with spot fests, and jumping through ropes and stunts, otherwise known as WWE today, is a by product of the WCW luchador revolution, and ECW. It didn’t really exist in 1995. Nash was of his time.. One only needs to look at the Undertaker the progression of the business. His amazing Wrestlemania matches didn’t begin until the mid 2000s, when more was expected of him as a wrestler. (PS, this is also one of the reasons Kevin Nash did not succeed in his return in 2002/2003, his plodding wrestling style didn’t really work anymore. He couldn’t carry a “great” match.)
While not a maven in the ring, Nash needs to be given more of a break in the “talent” category. He wasn’t terrible. One could even compare him to current “hated persona” Roman Reigns. Reigns, like Diesel, are an example of Vince taking a chance and building a new star with potential. Where Nash struggled, and likely Roman will succeed, was in the quality of opponent to help the green champion improve. Reigns will have Rollins, Bryan, Cena, Lesanr, Wyatt and more to teach him while growing his image. Nash didn’t have that. You can’t put a large Kevin Nash in the ring with the talentless Mabel. Here is the list of wrestlers who got a good match out of Mabel…..
Outside of Bret Hart, Owen Hart, Shawn Michaels and Razor Ramon, the WWE struggled with legitimate characters in 1995. They had gone too far to the cartoon style. Here is some characters in WWF 1995: Remember Them?
Now while Kevin Nash is better than he is given credit, there is still a massive downside to this man. First, Nash was a member of the Kliq, the group of friends, who successfully bullied their way into positions of power when the void of Hogan opened up in WWF.
Shawn Michaels, an annoyingly beloved figure, was at the forefront of this charade called the Kliq. Its sole purpose seemed to be to keep down talents (Tatanka at Wrestlemania 9, Bam Bam Bigelow after Wrestlemania 11, etc) and make sure that the Kliq, more than anyone else, remained top dogs.
Bret Hart complains about this group of cronies, who had Vince McMahon’s ear, and ran roughshod through the organization for a few years. Nash likely got his run with the belt from this connection. He was a political monster, and he, as well as Michaels, hurt the WWE, heralding the two worst years financially for the company 95 and 96 (funnily enough Michaels year of 1996 was much worse than Diesel’s of 1995, largly due to Nash debut in WCW)
Nash and Hall took the politics they learned in WWF and perfected them in WCW. They changed the business with their guaranteed contracts. From 1996 on, the Monday Night War necessitated guaranteed money for a wrestlers’ loyalty. Nash was a businessman who helped make wrestling more of a business, a practice which still exists today.
This is both a good thing and a bad thing. No wrestler should be putting his body on the line and not be able to afford to live. The sad tragedy of Kamala and many other old school talents is that of the per show, per crowd paychecks….
Nash changed that for the better, but in doing so politicized money within wrestling in a way it hadn’t been. CM Punk and Brock Lesnar would continue his salary negotiations tactics to their advantages later down the line. Politics is a dangerous pen to wield. And Nash knew how to use his suave nature and coolness factor to his advantage, getting the ear of both Vince McMahon and Eric Bishcoff.
In WCW, Nash did some of his worst offenses. His work rate, match quality and storylines were fairly strong, especially from 1996-1998. Nash became the leader of the face version of the NWO and as an avid watcher, I always thought the Woldpac was somehow cooler (and in retrospect realize Nash was creating a storyline Kliq)
Nash is heavily criticized for his booking decisions when he took over the book for a short period of time. Funnily enough, Nash did fine, but in the end was replaced by Kevin Sullivan,who was much better. It wasn’t until Vince Russo came in with creative control that WCW turned to shit, with the year 2000 being the most absurd year in pro wrestling in history. None of that was Nash’s fault. He for sure took advantage of WCW, and their large purse to his advantage, but in the end it was a job for him. Nash shrugged more than he stuck it to wrestlers.
The last real negative affect of Kevin Nash, and the NWO as a whole, was they glorified being the heel too much. Nearly all heels since then have tried to be cool. I mentioned in my piece about Larry Zbyszko that Larry never strove to play a cool or even likeable person. That is what a heel was supposed to be. Nash helped change that.
Fans, especially the older, teenage group, began cheering the “bad” guy. Stone Cold took that to another level, taking the heel and turning him into the babyface. Austin is an example of it done well. Today’s WWE is an example of it done poorly. Wade Barrett, for example, has become bogged down with a catchphrase and his directed need to be “noticed” by the audience. Heels are supposed to get noticed by being dastardly, unlikable and plain bad guys.
Not this Bad Guy
When Nash and Hall changed that, it added a level of haziness to the roles of heel characters. It seemed no longer to be bad guy vs good guy.
One last point on the NWO. The NWO will eventually be inducted into the Hall of Fame. Despite what the WWE likes to say publicly, the NWO is the most important faction in the history of pro-wrestling. While their pure wrestling was leaps below the original Four Horsemen’s run, their effect on the business was far larger Without the NWO, there is no DX, no Attitude Era and no Monday Night War. Plain and simple.
And Nash was a catalyst for the success of the NWO, If just Razor Ramon left and was joined by Hulk Hogan, it would have felt like a wrestling angle. It needed Hall, Nash and Hogan to succeed.
Funnily enough that statement above is why the NWO failed in WWF in 2002. The NWO was made to look like chumps at Wrestlemania 18, with both Hogan and Hall losing cleanly and then Nash and Hall turning on Hulk Hogan for absolutely no reason. They tried to have Nash take the lead on the NWO, even bringing Big Show, Booker T and eventually Shawn Michaels to help legitimize and differentiate it from the WCW version (making it a new Kliq?)
Nash’s body seemed to turn brittle by 2002 and he tore his quad. He has been plagued by this rib from the IWC since and boy I bet it bothers him to some degree.
He returned once again in 2003 was made to look more like a chump than the main event talent he was in WCW. 2003 WWE was not the place for Kevin Nash. He was too old school and his lack of wrestling acumen got in the way. 2003 WWE was much different from 1995 WWF and Nash wasn’t particularly poised to succeed. His contract was not renewed at the end of 2003 and Nash disappeared from TV.
This is when I almost begin to feel bad for Kevin Nash. During his TNA years and the years which followed, it became obvious that Nash needed wrestling more than he might have let onto (or perhaps he grew more attached to it as his star faded). Nash started appearing at indy shows, making pennies to what he used to be making, holding onto the dream as many of his contemporaries.
It was only when Nash came back to WWE in 2011, in an exciting sunrise Royal Rumble appearance, that he truly came home. Nash signed a legends contract and even had a brief feud with CM Punk in 2011 (they never fought due to Nash’s health, but had this really funny banter)
I don’t blame Nash for being who he is. That makes me different from many other fans. He is what he is. If we can forgive Shawn Michaels for being a deviant, we can forgive Kevin Nash for being a cold-hearted businessman. Wrestling does matter to this man, and he deserves his Hall of Fame induction.
2015 has been so all over the place, but the WWE has made good with the last 3 inductees. (Fujimani, Zbyszko & Nash)
Nash is the third member of the Kliq to join the Hall of Fame. Very expected. Didn’t go in as Diesel because Kevin Nash asked to go in under his real name… as it is his real name. Triple H has been slowly getting his friends in the Hall of Fame and Nash’s inclusion continues this.
Plus last main event babyface New Generation Candidate (outside of Lex Luger) Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Yokozuna, Razor Ramon and now Kevin Nash…..
Opens Door For?
Not many people. Nash was the next likely choice of Kliq member. He is one of the last New Generation Main Eventers. Vader and Sid are the only two upper card members still missing. Perhaps them….
Vader can’t wait to go in
Reasons this shouldn’t have happened.
Might get booed. There is a real group of “smart” fans who don’t like him.